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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-64502</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve updated our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gpsreview.net/tomtom-iphone-app/&quot;&gt;TomTom iPhone App&lt;/a&gt; page (not this page, follow the link) with new info about the TomTom application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve updated our <a href="http://www.gpsreview.net/tomtom-iphone-app/">TomTom iPhone App</a> page (not this page, follow the link) with new info about the TomTom application.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-64221</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, but the iPhone would be pretty pointless without a data plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but the iPhone would be pretty pointless without a data plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Khyron</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-64217</link>
		<dc:creator>Khyron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I meant is that you dont need a stupid data plan to get GPS ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I meant is that you dont need a stupid data plan to get GPS &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The operating system (Windows Mobile vs the iPhone GPS) doesn&#039;t have anything to do with GPS quality. I&#039;ve recorded tracklogs with an iPhone and they are just as good as those created with a Garmin handheld GPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The operating system (Windows Mobile vs the iPhone GPS) doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with GPS quality. I&#8217;ve recorded tracklogs with an iPhone and they are just as good as those created with a Garmin handheld GPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-64200</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iphone sucks. Windows Mobile is the real answer for those who want REAL GPS on their phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iphone sucks. Windows Mobile is the real answer for those who want REAL GPS on their phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-47775</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eirik - You might have missed the news, but the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gpsreview.net/gps-related-iphone-announcements/&quot;&gt;new iPhone has GPS&lt;/a&gt; and is a little slimmer and lighter than the original.

TomTom&#039;s PND devices run on Linux, which would make porting a bit easier, and in fact &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gpsreview.net/tomtom-for-iphone/&quot;&gt;they might have done it already&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eirik &#8211; You might have missed the news, but the <a href="http://www.gpsreview.net/gps-related-iphone-announcements/">new iPhone has GPS</a> and is a little slimmer and lighter than the original.</p>
<p>TomTom&#8217;s PND devices run on Linux, which would make porting a bit easier, and in fact <a href="http://www.gpsreview.net/tomtom-for-iphone/">they might have done it already</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Eirik</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-47772</link>
		<dc:creator>Eirik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the Kaiser is very different from the Iphone. It has a totally different OS, and is much thicker then the iphone. In order to fit a gps in the iphone it would be so thick that it won&#039;t anylonger fit in your pocket.

They will also need to develop a brand new solution if they are going to make TomTom aviable to the phone, as TomTom only fits Windows Mobile. (which Iphone never will get)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the Kaiser is very different from the Iphone. It has a totally different OS, and is much thicker then the iphone. In order to fit a gps in the iphone it would be so thick that it won&#8217;t anylonger fit in your pocket.</p>
<p>They will also need to develop a brand new solution if they are going to make TomTom aviable to the phone, as TomTom only fits Windows Mobile. (which Iphone never will get)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-46268</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTC has a phone called Kaiser that has 3G and GPS and is about the same size as the iPhone (a little thicker, but not as long). It is possible to fit the components and appropriate battery in the iPhone with only a slight increase in size. AT&amp;T sells this phone as the Tilt can it can be bought for $399 with a new 2 year contract.

So the technology is there, the price is there, the next thing is to get the iPhone 2.0 out with these features. Summer/Fall is most likely time we will see it. At this point there is no reason not too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTC has a phone called Kaiser that has 3G and GPS and is about the same size as the iPhone (a little thicker, but not as long). It is possible to fit the components and appropriate battery in the iPhone with only a slight increase in size. AT&amp;T sells this phone as the Tilt can it can be bought for $399 with a new 2 year contract.</p>
<p>So the technology is there, the price is there, the next thing is to get the iPhone 2.0 out with these features. Summer/Fall is most likely time we will see it. At this point there is no reason not too.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-45292</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the constructive and detailed analysis. It is a welcome example given all the irrational M$ vs iphone garbage being thrown around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the constructive and detailed analysis. It is a welcome example given all the irrational M$ vs iphone garbage being thrown around.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.gpsreview.net/apple-iphone-gps/#comment-42741</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the example you provided where you open up Google Maps and it defaults to your current position, I think a cell site triangulation method would work fine... provided you are in an area where you can get a cell signal. :)

As to why Apple didn&#039;t include GPS in the first place, I can agree with what they have said. I&#039;m sure there were space considerations, a GPS chipset would also draw more battery power, and it would produce additional heat. After-all most GPS devices with the same size screen are much larger and have a shorter battery life than the iPhone. And of course it would have added additional component costs to build. I think it will come though as battery technology improves, GPS chipset designs become more efficient in power usage, etc. Hopefully sooner than later. :)

As for vehicle needs for accuracy, often roads are very, very close together which requires the GPS to be as accurate as possible to determine exactly which road you are on to provide accurate instructions. For example of you get off on the wrong exit the GPS needs to recognize ASAP that you took the wrong exit so that it can reroute you before you get to the end of the exit. An &quot;A-GPS&quot; solution is accurate enough for that if it can connect to a cell site. However I&#039;m uncertain if a system based on cell site triangulation alone would be accurate enough.

But for what you are talking about (open up Google Maps and have it default to your position) a software based solution like you originally mentioned would probably work just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the example you provided where you open up Google Maps and it defaults to your current position, I think a cell site triangulation method would work fine&#8230; provided you are in an area where you can get a cell signal. <img src='http://www.gpsreview.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As to why Apple didn&#8217;t include GPS in the first place, I can agree with what they have said. I&#8217;m sure there were space considerations, a GPS chipset would also draw more battery power, and it would produce additional heat. After-all most GPS devices with the same size screen are much larger and have a shorter battery life than the iPhone. And of course it would have added additional component costs to build. I think it will come though as battery technology improves, GPS chipset designs become more efficient in power usage, etc. Hopefully sooner than later. <img src='http://www.gpsreview.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for vehicle needs for accuracy, often roads are very, very close together which requires the GPS to be as accurate as possible to determine exactly which road you are on to provide accurate instructions. For example of you get off on the wrong exit the GPS needs to recognize ASAP that you took the wrong exit so that it can reroute you before you get to the end of the exit. An &#8220;A-GPS&#8221; solution is accurate enough for that if it can connect to a cell site. However I&#8217;m uncertain if a system based on cell site triangulation alone would be accurate enough.</p>
<p>But for what you are talking about (open up Google Maps and have it default to your position) a software based solution like you originally mentioned would probably work just fine.</p>
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