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Garmin Nuvi 650

Mar
15
2007

The Garmin Nuvi 650 should be available soon and marks a new entry point to the Garmin Nuvi widescreen series (600 series). Widescreen GPS devices are commonly only found in the upper end of GPS devices. But many people who are looking for a widescreen don’t necessarily want a device loaded with advanced features they might never use. The Nuvi 650 will fit this role.

In fact, the main selling points of the 650 might be what it doesn’t have. For example it does not come with Bluetooth hands free calling, it does not come with a traffic receiver, and it does not come with an FM transmitter. If any of those features are something you would use, consider moving up to the Garmin Nuvi 660 which offers all of those. An optional traffic receiver is available, however at an additional cost.

The predominant feature is the widescreen display, but there are a couple of other “extras” you do get with the Nuvi 650. An MP3 player is included, although without an FM transmitter don’t set your bar too high when it comes to good quality sound at highway speeds.

Text-to-speech is also included on the Nuvi 650. So in dense urban areas if you don’t have enough time to glance over at the display, you can listen for the name of the street you need to turn on in addition to the distance cue. The retail price is $750 and it should be available within the next couple of months.

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219 Responses


  1. As I red description of this unit I noticed absents of “high-sensitivity WAAS-capable GPS receiver by SiRF”
    Does that mean they dropped very good SiRF chip?
    I drive in New York City and my Garmin 530 works best out of other Garmin and other devices.
    Thanks
    Alex

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    Alex - March 16th, 2007
  2. Hi Alex, great observation. There is some confusion on this right now. Some have said the chips are being replaced. I believe the replacements are MTK chipsets. However I expect the MTK chipsets to have near identical performance to the SiRF chipset. There is also speculation that Garmin is using their own chipset. The fact that Garmin hasn’t said what they will be using could mean that they want to remain ambiguous in order to facilitate a change in chipset during production.

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    Tim - March 17th, 2007
  3. Hi Guys… the unit uses the SIRFStar III just like the other Nuvis (I own one).

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    John - July 18th, 2007
  4. I am a virgin to the GPS market. From the research, I feel the three important things I need are Vias’ as I am a salesperson who will want to set up a route. Talk-to-search, as I will be traveling in unfamiliar settings, As wide s screen as I cn get, but the first two are the most important. Also, it will need to be portable, as I will be going between rental cars alot. So, with that in mind, are there two or three models and brands. Blue tooth, MP3, are not important.

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    Jim - July 24th, 2007
  5. I need to correct my criteria – it is Text-to-speech, and ability to put in multiple way-points, portable, and as wide a screen as I can get as the primary features. Thanks.

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    Jim - July 24th, 2007
  6. This site has great reviews. I’m new to GPS and need help sorting out the features among the vast number of units available. You cut right to the chase. Even Garvin’s site doesn’t do that. Great job.

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    Bruce - September 7th, 2007
  7. The Garmin Nuvi 650 seems similar to the nuvi 350 except for the screen size and the lack of indication as to whether it has the SiRFstarIII chipset. Is my comparison correct and what chipset does it have?

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    Bart - October 29th, 2007
  8. Your comparison is correct, Garmin no longer confirms which chipset they use on many models.

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    Tim - October 30th, 2007
  9. Hi Tim,

    I am newcomer in the world of GPS devices, and not in need of many of the functions of the more expensive models. What I would like is a reliable unit that has had very few problems, a larger (4.3 inch) screen size, the text to speech feature and lots of points of interest. Any recommendations?

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    Lawrence - November 8th, 2007
  10. This model (Nuvi 650) or the TomTom ONE XL-S are the most popular in that category.

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    Tim - November 8th, 2007
  11. Thanks for your quick response. I noticed that the Garmin Nuvi 650 lists for $350 more than the Tom Tom one XL-S. Are there extra features or better reliability that justify this higher cost? I also noticed that the Garwin battery duration is 7 hours versus 2 hours on the Tom Tom. Does this matter if the unit is used in a car and is constantly being charged? Is one unit more reliable than the other? Do you have any preference?

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    Lawrence - November 8th, 2007
  12. The list price is quite a bit more, but the street prices are typically within about $50. The features are quite close. The Nuvi 65 includes an MP3 player and a photo viewer but those are two of the bigger differences. Yes, there is also a considerable difference in battery life, but as you mentioned if the unit is used in the car it will keep being charged and then that probably won’t matter to you.

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    Tim - November 8th, 2007
  13. Hi Tim, I got my 650 and still dont know how to increase poi icon in the map when routing or normal viewing. The icons of poi are unbelievably small that hardly seen or touched by the finger ! Any tweak or update for this ? And nuvi 650 or 660 not showing parking space lines like tomtom one does..how sad is that…

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    wonder - November 9th, 2007
  14. Wonder – The Garmin Nuvi series devices don’t display POI icons on the map in the driving view like the TomTom devices do.

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    Tim - November 9th, 2007
  15. Tim; As a virgin GPS player, The NUVI 650 sounds like a good entry level GPS. Having used a Where2 on a AVIS rental, I saw the need for updateable highway construction alerts. The optional highway updates are appealing, but at what cost??? I like many don’t need theiPod, FM Music, etc, etc . But updates on const. is valuable.

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    Dan Jensen - November 17th, 2007
  16. Dan – if you purchase a traffic receiver as an accessory (about $215 retail) they typically come with a 12-15 month subscription; after that it is typically $60 annually.

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    Tim - November 17th, 2007
  17. Does the Garmin Nuvi 650 require an additional monthly “interface” fee for functionality?

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    Doug - November 17th, 2007
  18. Doug, unless you are using live traffic or some other “connected” service there is no fee to use GPS.

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    Tim - November 17th, 2007
  19. Help me. I can’t decide between the TomTom One XL-S and the Nuvi 650. Why are the 650’s so inexpensive now?

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    mary Dutton - November 17th, 2007
  20. Mary, if you haven’t already you can compare those two here.

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    Tim - November 17th, 2007
  21. I am new to the whole GPS thing but I need to buy 24 devices for a fleet of vehicles I have at work. What I need to know is 1)Do these come with a re-charger and 2) We are in an area that is growing all the time, is it possible to up grade the mapping software say once a year or would I have to buy all new units?

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    Tam - November 17th, 2007
  22. Hi, I have been reading review and need help. What about Magellan 4040 compare to Garmin 650. [snip] has both for same price. Like others I don’t care about extra, just good GPS. I am more concern about how up to date is the map. Please help. Thanks

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    Tommy - November 17th, 2007
  23. Tim, in reading the comparisons of the Tom and Nuvi ..what are vias and which map information would be up tp date….or how do you know. Thanks for the help

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    mary - November 17th, 2007
  24. Tam – (1) Yes. (2) Yes, the updates come out annually and are about $75.

    Tommy – Both devices currently use the same map from the same map vendor.

    Mary – It means the number of points you can add to a route between you and your destination. The map is based on the Q3 or Q4 2006 release from their map vendor.

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    Tim - November 17th, 2007
  25. hey tim, i am looking at getting a gps for my girlfriend as gift. i am looking at the magellan 4040,3250 and the garmin 650,350. I perfer one that has ability to at least upgrade to traffic. also would like a widescreen. is the 4040 outdated by the 3250? i like the ability of the aaa on magellan for my gf. which units are better garmin or magellan as far as ease of use and quality? thanks

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    Max - November 17th, 2007
  26. Does the Garmin Nuvi 650 have trail and exit information built in? As an RVer these features would help with our hikes and to plan for gasing up.

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    Marv - November 18th, 2007
  27. Max – the 3250 really doesn’t replace the 4040 as they are different size devices. The 3250 is a newer series than the 4040 though. Both are pretty easy to use.

    Marv, the 650 doesn’t include any off-road information.

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    Tim - November 18th, 2007
  28. hi tim, I am looking at the Garmin Nuvi 650 — new to the GPS world. What does the bluetooth feature do for me?

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    Teresa - November 18th, 2007
  29. It allows you to perform hands free calling from your GPS rather than needing to touch your phone to make and receive calls. The GPS acts as a speaker and microphone.

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    Tim - November 18th, 2007
  30. How can I use the site to compare two units side by side as you did for comments #20 above?

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    TT - November 19th, 2007
  31. Top left corner of the homepage, the ‘Find Auto GPS’ box.

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    Tim - November 19th, 2007
  32. Hi Tim,

    I have another question about the yearly map upgrades. Since I am looking to buy 24 units would I have to buy 24 upgrades every year or just one that I could load onto all the units?

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    Tam - November 20th, 2007
  33. One of the above posts said yearly map updates cost $75 for the Garmin. Good thing I read this forum as this maybe a deal breaker for me. I’m also looking at the Tomtom XLS. Does you have to pay for map updates for the tomtom also?

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    Link - November 20th, 2007
  34. If I am planning to travel to Europe, can you purchase software, if so is it by country?

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    Bob - November 20th, 2007
  35. I’m comparing the TomTom ONE 3rd Edition and Garmin Nuvi 650. When it’s time to get updated maps, is there a charge from either vendor? Can I enter several points and have it show a “best” route Also which is easier to use in general? Overall which is the best value…especially if I don’t need MP3 ability

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    hb - November 20th, 2007
  36. Tam – Yes, you would need a separate license for each map.

    Link – Yes, TomTom also charges for map updates like most manufacturers.

    Bob – Yes, you can purchase either bulk (Western Europe) or by individual country in many cases.

    hb – Yes, both copmpanies charge for map updates. The Nuvi 650 only allows one “via” point per route, as does the ONE 3rd Edition. The other TomTom devices allow up to 48-50 points in the route as does the Nuvi 700 series.

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    Tim - November 20th, 2007
  37. If you had to get either the 260 or the 650, which Garmin would you choose?

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    Bernadette - November 20th, 2007
  38. Bernadette – I’d go for the 650 due to the widescreen.

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    Tim - November 20th, 2007
  39. Tim,
    I’m a happy Ique3600 owner for 5+ years and I’m looking for a replacement. I’ve already ordered one of these but is there an equivalent to the Ique3600 with regard to advanced features:
    1. syncing to outlook contacts
    2. advanced control on searches (500ft with current route etc.)

    Thanks,

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    Matt - November 20th, 2007
  40. Hi Tim,

    Your website rocks!!!

    Which GPS do you recommend: Nuvi 650 vs. Nuvi 750? The price difference at an online store is only $70 more for the Nuvi 750.

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    John - November 20th, 2007
  41. I see that the Magellan 4040 will indicate your longitude, latitude, compass heading and elevation. Does the Garmin 650 give you your current elevation? Thanks

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    Art - November 21st, 2007
  42. great site tim. am comparing3 units for best bang for buck on black friday. need an opinion..nuvi 200, c340, nuvi 650 [snip, see comment policy] ..i need good coverage and text to speech, the street names help but not crucial. i read also something about 12 or 20 referance satellites. thanks so much.

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    jeff - November 21st, 2007
  43. What will be your pick ? Nuvi 250W or 650 (both selling at same price).

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    Anil - November 21st, 2007
  44. Your specs do not indicate internal memory size or number of POI’s. Can additional maps and POI’s be loaded into internal memory? Do any auto GPS units allow you to create and store a route?

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    Bob P. - November 21st, 2007
  45. Matt – Unfortunately the newer devices don’t offer those functions.

    John – If you need the multi destination routing then the 750 would be the way to go.

    Jeff – the devices with high sensitivity receivers (nuvi 200, 650) get better satellite reception than the 12 channel receivers like what is in the c340.

    Anil – I like the 250W for the slightly slimmer size and the hold switch, but the 650 offers text to speech and optional traffic.

    Bob – There are some specs that manufacturers don’t often confirm. There are about 6 million pois (reportely) in the 650. To create and store routes you would want to check out the Nuvi 700 series.

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    Tim - November 21st, 2007
  46. Which would you buy? The Magellan Maestro 4040 or the Garmin Nuvi 650 or the TomTom one XLS

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    Beth - November 21st, 2007
  47. I need to make a decision -should I get the Garmin nuvi 650 – Magellan Maestro 4040. Help which would you suggest

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    Beth - November 21st, 2007
  48. According to the Garmin website the 600 series still use the SIRFStar III chips while the 700 series do not identify a chip designation.

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    Al - November 21st, 2007
  49. If you have a nearby [snip, see comment policy], they have the Magellan 4040 Maestro for $[snip]. You can use it for 90 days and then decide if you like. I have one, and absolutely love it. Has all the features for less $$ than Garmins (Bluetooth, Multi-way points, AAA Tourbook, 4.5M POIs). Only thing, if you need support then I’d recommend Garmin. If you are technical, or don’t need hand holding then Magellan units are terrific! Hope this helps some people trying to decide between both.

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    Ken F. - November 22nd, 2007
  50. I am looking at the Garmin nuvi 650 and 350. Other then screen size, what options or extras does the 650 provide not on the 350? Which would you recommend.

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    Bruce B - November 23rd, 2007
  51. Bruce, the only difference is the size.

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    Tim - November 23rd, 2007
  52. Great site for Germain 650. I’ve just gotton 650 last week with a good deal from [snip, see comment policy]. I’m living in Ottawa, Canada. My primary driving area is around Ottawa and Montreal. I’ve tried to set up a route from Ottawa to Mont-Tremblant (a famous ski hill) and found the routing is not accurate as I expected. Does it mean I have to update the map? and How could I get a newer Canada map? Is there any extra charge for this?

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    Walter Li - November 25th, 2007
  53. Walter – No matter where you are, what device you use, and what maps you have you will often find routes you don’t agree with. You can find your map version by going to Settings -> Map -> Map Info. The current version of City Navigator NT is called 2008.

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    Tim - November 25th, 2007
  54. I have a Garmin 2620 that “locked up”, and the touch scrwwn does not work. It displays current position, but that is it. Do the Garmin 650 and Magellan 4000 have the same level of detail on street maps, street numbers, etc. that the 2620 has?

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    Chuck Harvath - November 25th, 2007
  55. The Magellan 4040 gives you longitude, latitude and elevation. Does the Garmin 650?

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    DEBBIE - January 22nd, 2008
  56. Debbie – Yes.

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    Tim - January 22nd, 2008
  57. I’ve seen the latiture and longitude on my nuvi650 but never see the elevation. Where is it hiden?

    Walter

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    Walter Li - January 22nd, 2008
  58. It is on the satellite status screen. Click on the satellite reception icon near the top left of the main menu.

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    Tim - January 22nd, 2008
  59. Tim, Sorry to be a bother, but I can’t find the latitude and longitude on the Garmin 650 – can you tell me exactly where to find it?

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    DEBBIE - January 23rd, 2008
  60. I am an avid snowmobiler, love going “out-of-bounds” into the wilderness. But if I were looking for a great GPS System that I could download trailmaps into and has a big bright screen….which system would you recommend?

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    Sean - January 28th, 2008
  61. I am trying to decide between the Magellan 4250 and the Nuvi 650. Looking for reliability and ease of use. Voice command and blue tooth ar epluses but reliability comes first. Which would you recommend?

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    Ronee - February 3rd, 2008
  62. Opinion, Magellan 4250, or spend more $$ for nuvi 680, or less $$ for the nuvi 650.

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    Paul - February 6th, 2008
  63. I have just purchased the Germin 650 for my husband as a gift…he would like a GPS touse on our boat and was told when I purchased this that he could download the marine charts for our area and install them on this GPS. Is this correct?

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    vicki - February 13th, 2008
  64. I have been looking at the 650 and the new 750 Garmin Models, I am new to GPS and this will be my first one. I am in a unique situation I have enough points on a bonus program to use towards a 650 but I am still leaning towards the 750, I like how it has trip routing on it and other features but in the end I’m not sure if the extras will really be worth it and I should just get the 650… decisions decisions! I love this website, just wondering if anyone has tried out the 750 v/s the 650

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    Dwane - February 13th, 2008
  65. Dwane – As you mentioned the 750 has the multi destination route planner. It also has an FM transmitter. You can see the differences over here.

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    Tim - February 13th, 2008
  66. I have been reading a lot about the difference in satellite reception between the Nuvi 650 and 750. Most reviews say the 650 is better. What’s your opinion?

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    Shelley - February 22nd, 2008
  67. The antenna placement of the 600 series gives it a slight advantage over the 700 series, however it is less convenient. However, since the update Garmin released adding InstantFixII recently many of the reception issues people were having with the 700 series have been eliminated.

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    Tim - February 22nd, 2008
  68. I just rec’d my new Nuvi 650. I got it for my Jeep Wrangler. I cannot here the voice directions when it is mounted about a foot from my ear(s). I have the volume turned up to 100% and I still cannot hear it when moving. Is this a flaw in the model or do you think I have a bad one? (My hearing is normal)

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    Steve - February 24th, 2008
  69. I am looking at a decent GPS unit for my daughter, who does a lot of driving in her work. Is the Garmin 650 GPS a “portable” unit or does it need to me installed and mounted?

    Thanks . . .

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    Tim Herman - March 1st, 2008
  70. Yes, it is portable.

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    Tim - March 1st, 2008
  71. will the 650 work in Europe? In Israel? or would you suggest a different device at a similar price range? (wide screen, text to speach, voice recognition (prefferable), reliable)

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    Shai - March 22nd, 2008
  72. for the basic but best garmin gps is the 260w your choice or 650 or 750.thanks

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    Jane Zirin - March 25th, 2008
  73. I would like to have a GPS. I am bargaining either Garmin 350 0r 650. From above, you said is only the size difference. Does 650 has bluetooth option too?

    Thanks

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    Jennifer - March 29th, 2008
  74. Hi Tim,I am looking at the Nuvi 650 and the Navigon 7100.The Nuvi seems better because they’ve been around,but the Navigon has some cool features for the same price,which would you recommend.

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    daniel - April 7th, 2008
  75. My wife and I drive from Eastern Canada across the USA down the east coast of Mexico to the Yucatan each year. We currently use a Garmin EMAP fed through our laptop with great results . We can plan and follow a route all the way. We want to upgrade our unit as ours is 7-10 years old and is outdated. We want something that current Mexico maps can be uplaoded into along with route planning. Speech direction necessary . All we want is directions nothing else necessary. What garmin unit would you recommend? Brian

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    Brian McGowan - April 8th, 2008
  76. hi, does the garmin 650 work as a gps logger allowing me to insert a memory card and have it timestamp my location every second or something like that? thanks!

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    Anthony - April 14th, 2008
  77. Anthony, the Nuvi 600 series doesn’t have a tracklog recorder.

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    Tim - April 15th, 2008
  78. I’ve tried a GPS unit with an FM transmitter before, and was somewhat disappointed. Make that very disappointed with the radio frequency bleed through and less than amazing sound quality.

    If your car stereo has an input jack, can you connect the 650 to it via it’s headphone jack?

    If so, is there a big difference in terms of sound quality, or am I better off burning my mp3s to disk, and playing them that way?

    Thanks in advance.

    Bill

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    Bill Andrews - April 15th, 2008
  79. Hi, Tim,
    This website is so useful. I am new to GPS, wondering if it worth buying Garmin 750 instead of 650 or TomTom One XL-S? Which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance,
    -Luke

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    luke - April 20th, 2008
  80. I would like to get a GPS that my husband can use both in his truck as well as take when he goes snowmobiling. He wants to go out on trails with a guide then be able to go back later on the same trails with the use of his GPS. Is there any brand that records your where abouts so that you can retrace them at a later time. He prefers a bigger screen but i am not sure how feesable that would be on a snowmobile. Would i be better off buying two seperate GPS systems or would one do the job for both? Thank you

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    Denise P - April 23rd, 2008
  81. Yes, certainly get two devices.

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    Tim - April 23rd, 2008
  82. Tim,
    Do you have a suggestion of which one to go with for the snowmobile? Being able to make your own trail maps and size, I guess, would be the two main points on this GPS. Denise

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    Denise - April 24th, 2008
  83. Tom Tom display Street names in very small letters. Do you know if Garmin fonts are biger or not?

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    Igor - April 28th, 2008
  84. I do not own a GPS and I’m very interested in getting either the 650 or 750.
    (1) The retail people at [snip] said that the 650 was discontinued and I can only get it via the web. They also said that the 650 has last year’s map and I should buy a 750 if I want this year’s map. Is this true? If getting the 650 means immediately buying an update, then I’d be better off getting the 750?
    (2) I live in the US but travel a lot to Canada. If the preloaded map for 650 or 750 says North America, I want to make sure it really includes and will work in Canada. I do not want to spend extra money to buy a Canada map/chip.
    (3) I am interested in your answer to Luke’s question (dated 4/20/08). Should I buy the 650, 750, or Tomtom One-XLS? I found the 650 approx $85 less than the 750 (on the web).

    Thanks!

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    Uni - May 8th, 2008
  85. I am a first time buyer. I’m between the Garmin 650 and Garmin 260W.They both sem to have very similar specs and features. The 650 was discontinued, according to one store, in Jan. 2008. Originally it was priced higher than the 260W. Now it’s available for less $$ at some online dealers. Anyone have an opinion as to which is the better value?? Would the 650 come with outdated maps?

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    sid - May 12th, 2008
  86. How reliable and on the minute is the traffic funtion? Do current models still come with a 3 month free traffic subscription? All parts for this are included?

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    Melanie - May 13th, 2008
  87. The 650 does not come with a traffic receiver. You would have to purchase it as an accessory, in which case it would come with a 1 year subscription. How well it works really depends on the area. Some places have good data while other places it isn’t as good.

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    Tim - May 13th, 2008
  88. My daughter gets lost frequently when driving places in her car. But she also rides a road bicycle many places. I cannot afford 2 GPS systems. Other than the Magellan Crossover GPS that has rubber caps over the slots, is there any other one I could get her that would both speak street names like the usual auto GPS models AND can be protected from the elements while she rides her bike (as many as 30 miles at a time)? Thanks! This is an awesome website!

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    Sylvia - May 17th, 2008
  89. By the way, my daughter also rides in triathlons and long-distance rides with biking groups. She has also gotten lost doing this (mostly trying to ride back home from her long distance activities). Even if she could put her GPS from her car into a zip lock bag and keep it in her back pack or something in case she got lost, that would help. Would that work? Or are there handheld GPS systems that speak to you?

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    Sylvia - May 18th, 2008
  90. Sid, I bought a 650 a week ago. It came with the V9 2008 map. But, after I registered it I was able to download the free 2009 update. The map update process took some time, but went on without a hitch. (Which is better than I did last month when I bought my wife a 260, went through the same update process, and had PC crash problems… which in the end were a hard drive problem on my PC, not the update program.)

    I was also able to update the system firmware with the WebUpdater. And the unit has a one year warranty like all the other garmins.

    So, even if they are having a fire sale on them right now, I think the 650 is “supported” as well as the other units… and I do like the wider screen; but don’t tell my wife. (-:

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    Dave - May 18th, 2008
  91. Sylvia, I think one gps that is great for auto and bike is a tough order… especially when you add the text to speech (TTS) requirement. This is just my opinion, but I think a few things to consider would be:

    1. Battery life. The auto gps say that the battery can last up to 5, 7, 8 hours. But most folks report a lot less actual time of continuous use. (If I was biking 30+ miles and then back, battery life would have to be measured in days not hours!) Handhelds last longer, and you can carry a replacement set of batteries with you.

    2. Mounting: If she wants the gps out on the bike where she can see the display while riding, I don’t know that the rectangular shape of the auto gps is something bikers would want. Even if you figure out a way to make it stay on the bike! If she always uses a backpack, then maybe the zip lock idea would work.

    3. Size: If she’s using a backpack, then she might not need a wide screen gps like a 650. My wife’s 260 has TTS, and the same maps and routing as my 650. It might be a little cheaper option. Plus it doesn’t have a flip up antenna like the 650; so that might be a little more convenient in backpack mode. I’m not sure either way if she’ll be able to hear the voice prompts from the backpack as she is peddling along. But, with the 650 she could plug in headphones… not an option with the 260.

    I have an old Magellan Meridian Platinum that I love for outdoors. It’s tough, waterproof and floats. I was able to load street maps on it to use in the car for turn by turn directions. But “beeps and boops” signals for turns were no match for “in 500 feet, turn right on Elm street” that we got with the Nuvis. So, the Nuvis stay in the cars, and the Meridian gets used when we’re outside.

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    Dave - May 19th, 2008
  92. Sylvia Yes, the Zumo 550 has text to speech and is waterproof. However it would be cheaper to purchase two GPS devices, one of the bicycle and one for the car. Dave’s points are good ones as well.

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    Tim - May 19th, 2008
  93. For the bike, my daughter would only need to take out the gps to use it IF (when-?) she got lost. So I want her to have verbal directions in the car (turn left in 500 on Maple St, etc), but on the bike, I just want her to be able to find out where the heck she has gotten to and how to get back from there. That nuvi 260 sounded interesting. She doesn’t need music or photos. She has an iPod and a cell phone. But she doesn’t use her AAA membership to get triptiks and she is not all that good at reading a map. However, a mom substitute in the car telling her to turn left here IS what she can use! The pricing on these things is so strange. Often refurbished ones are more expensive than new ones. Some stores say something has been discontinued and is out of stock and other stores seem to have gazillions of the thing the other store had none of. I will look in to the 260. Thanks!

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    Sylvia - May 19th, 2008
  94. I purchased a 650 in November and have no complaints. It came with 2008 maps but when I registered it on Garmin’s website I was able to get the 2009 maps for free. One free download within 30 days of registering.

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    Darryl - May 27th, 2008
  95. At least one vendors site reports that the Nuvi 650 has been discontinued by Garmin as of Jan., 2008. If the features and price are ones that are desired, is there any risk of purchasing a discontinued model which is cheaper than the NUVI 750 that has replaced it?

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    Tad - June 4th, 2008
  96. Tad, as of a few minutes ago when I checked, Garmin doesn’t yet consider the 650 discontinued. They probably will in a few months, but they haven’t yet.

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    Tim - June 5th, 2008
  97. Trying to decide between a flip up antenna on the 650 or one like on the 750. I want to use the cigarette lighter holder, which will give better reception?

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    Steve - June 9th, 2008
  98. Steve the reception difference between the two is negligible.

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    Tim - June 9th, 2008
  99. Has the issue of satellite aqusition been resolved with the 750? I’m on the fence bewteen the 2 models. This is the deciding factor.

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    Steve - June 9th, 2008
  100. Steve – Yes.

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    Tim - June 9th, 2008
  101. I have a Garmin 650. I’ve owned it for about fifteen months.
    I consider the performance to be UNSATISFACTORY. The Map Data Base appears to be the core of their problem, leading to either “not found” or leading to wrong directions. Massively wrong, like you really will get lost.
    For those who wish to check it out, look for directions to Seven Springs Resort in PA. Try starting at I 70 at Somerset PA. You’ll find yourself making a left onto Tower Road….Tower Road is a gad gravel road leading to ………ahem…..guess what……….a Fire Tower for the Forrest Ranger.

    An even more massive error exists for you if you are going to Stratton Mountain in Vermont. If you want correct directions, call the resort. They even send notice to incoming guests warning them of the GPS misdirection.

    Worse than that, and totally irresponsible is the fact that Garmin makes no valid effort to correct their data base. The “help desk” was not in a position to forward corrections to get them into a Data Base Update. (Note, a yearly release of a new Data Base is made by Garmin and is available for around $50.00….but it has not made three error fixes that are well known) I was not able to find out what they do include in data base updates.

    I consider my Garmin 650 to be a toy. Worthless and unreliable for bona fide Auto Navigation.
    I suspect that the same flaws are in the other Garmin GPS models.

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    Eugene - June 19th, 2008
  102. Eugene – What map version are you running?

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    Tim - June 19th, 2008
  103. Information from on screen “System and Copyright Info”:

    nuvi 650
    Software Version 4.20
    Unit ID 336738241
    Audio Version 1.30
    GPS SW Version: 3:00

    ——————————————————————————–

    There have been quite a number of other discrepancies noted by me.

    Several times I have compared Map Quest routing with the nuvi…………Garmin fails.

    In Hagerstown MD the Broad Axe Restaurant is not listed in the Garmin Data Base. The restaurant exists, it’s quite well known, it’s been there for around forty years.
    On the other hand a number of Restaurants are listed which have been closed for quite a few years.

    Do you know of a means to put a reliable Data Base into the system ???

    Gene Lee

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    Eugene - June 20th, 2008
  104. Eugene, that is your software version, not map version. Go to Tools -> Settings -> Map -> Map Info to find your map version.

    That isn’t how POIs work, unfortunately. GPS manufacturers don’t list every restaurant, or hotel (or any POI) known. They only include a small sample. Most include only 5-20% of all known POIs in their databases.

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    Tim - June 20th, 2008
  105. City Navigator North America NY 2008
    That’s from the unit, your instruction sequence.
    Hmmmm.

    Anyway, Seven Springs PA and Stratton Mountain in Vermont are way more than a “POI”. Have a look with Google or whatever. The person at Stratton with whom I talked this past March expressed annoyance and almost disbelief that this error could be so.

    Here’s the fix:
    1) Garmin steps up and makes itself responsible for a working system.
    2) When a fault is called in or sent in to the Garmin Help Desk the problem is logged.
    3) A responsible person (AIC) examines the veracity of the problem.
    4) If verifiable information for a Data Base update has been provided by the caller, the information shall be set to paper and scheduled for inclusion in the next Data Base release.
    5) Garmin should say thank you.

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    Eugene - June 20th, 2008
  106. Navigation.

    That’s purpose.

    Not music via an SD card via the car radio. A bit of messing with this function of my GPS nuvi 650 makes me very pleased with the car radio/CD player as it is.

    And who on earth want to go through the nuisance of loading photos onto an SD card to look at them on this second rate media.

    Navigation, Garmin should get focused on it.

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    Eugene - June 20th, 2008
  107. Eugene, I actually do find the photo viewer useful. I use it to check out pictures from several trail cameras while still out in the woods.

    Playing music… not so much.

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    Dave - June 20th, 2008
  108. Eugene, if you have the map named “2008″ then it is based on the most current map Garmin’s map supplier (a separate company) had built as of the second half of 2006. And at that point it isn’t as though they had a perfect map. The world isn’t as well mapped as many people think, and is many, many years behind in some areas.

    You can report map errors at mapreporter.navteq.com, which largely follows the process you identified.

    Many people purchase GPS devices due to the multimedia capabilities in addition to navigation. The devices that don’t have multimedia capabilities have the same routing quality as those that don’t.

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    Tim - June 20th, 2008
  109. Tim,

    The E Mail address (mapreporter.navteq.com) is not a recogized address. If this process really exists, it is crucially important to Garmin and to me as well.

    Is there a telephone contact ? A Web Site ? How does one get complete and accurate information into the GPS ?

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    Eugene - June 21st, 2008
  110. Eugene, Honestly, if you want “complete and accurate information”– GPS isn’t for you. The mapping process takes years, not days. I can show you paved roads in ANY GPS on the market today that have existed for over 25 years that are not in the mapping database.

    The address I gave you is not an email address, it is a website. It is a real website, you can see it exists here:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mapreporter.navteq.com

    Again, if you expect complete and accurate mapping you can purchase a map update from Garmin since yours is not the most recent available, but it sounds like GPS isn’t for you.

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    Tim - June 21st, 2008
  111. Tim,

    I do not accept the “not for me” notion. The GPS just needs to be better implemented. Of course, I do want “complete and accurate” information. I cannot imagine that anyone would want less. But how about something a bit better. There are resources out here, such as myself, who would give time and technical help to get data into the Map Data Base. Where is Garmin ???

    Missing a major ski resort isn’t akin to a missing road as per your note

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    Eugene - June 21st, 2008
  112. Okay, Eugene.

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    Tim - June 21st, 2008
  113. Hi Tim, I was wondering if the Mp3 player function on the GPS unit can be used concurrently while navigating, such that when there is no instructions, the device would play music, but when there is an instruction, the music would dim down and the voice would speak.

    Thanks!

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    Justin - June 29th, 2008
  114. Yes, Justin– in fact that is exactly how it works. :)

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    Tim - June 29th, 2008
  115. I just bought a 650. On the 1st time use, it takes 5 min. to acquire satellite signal. Then it is much faster. Is it normal?
    I wonder if there are any software out there for 650 to play mpeg video. My friend downloaded a software on his Mio & now it can play movie & music.

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    Eddie - June 30th, 2008
  116. Yes, that is normal — you may wish to read our Tips for Acquiring Satellites. No video players that I’ve ever heard of. Garmin uses a closed operating system on that Nuvi.

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    Tim - June 30th, 2008
  117. im thinking about getting the garmin nuvi 650 or 260w is there any big differences? which one should i get? i found a place that has the 650 10 bucks cheaper than the 260w.

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    derek - July 1st, 2008
  118. The 650 can be connected to an optional traffic receiver, has a slightly longer battery life and has an MP3 player. The 260w is a little thinner, doesn’t need the flip up antenna, has a slightly better screen, and is a “newer” model.

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    Tim - July 1st, 2008
  119. well i dont care about the traffic receiver or mp3 or bluetooth. so would the garmin nuvi 260w be best or is there a better choice?

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    derek - July 2nd, 2008
  120. If you don’t need a traffic receiver, the mp3 player, nor a longer battery life then the 260w is the better pick.

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    Tim - July 2nd, 2008
  121. how is the 260w to the 350?

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    derek - July 2nd, 2008
  122. Derek, the 350 has a 3.5″ screen, compared to the 260w’s 4.3″ screen.

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    Dave - July 2nd, 2008
  123. Tim,
    Just got the 650 and thought that the text to speech feature included the verbal names of streets. It does give verbal instructions but no name for anything???????
    Did I misunderstand? Thx

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    Gino Milani - July 4th, 2008
  124. Gino, yes it does have TTS. See our article on How to Enable Text to Speech. The Garmin section is in the lower half.

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    Tim - July 4th, 2008
  125. Thanks Tim!
    Garmin on line manual and FAQ site leave a lot to be desired. I had no luck searching there, very,very poor.
    Thank goodness for gps review….
    Have a good holiday.

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    gino - July 4th, 2008
  126. Hi everyone
    I just purchased a garmin nuvi 650. One of the reasons that I purchased it was the fact that, it speaks the street names. Unfortunately my unit is not speaking the names do I need to do something for it to do that? So instead of it saying turn right on elm street it just says turn right? What do I do?

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    Mysel - July 12th, 2008
  127. Oh wow I’m really blind I totally have the answer to my question in the previous post. Sorry. Thank you I’ll try it tomorrow and see what happens.

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    Mysel - July 12th, 2008
  128. Hi Am trying to decide between the Garmin Nuvi 360 and the Nuvi 660. There is about a $60. price difference. Any thoughts on this? Thanks!

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    Vickie - July 16th, 2008
  129. I like spending other people’s money.. go for the $60. There are a few advantages to having a Widescreen, notably a bigger set of buttons to make input easier, and seeing more of the road to the side during turns.

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    Tim - July 16th, 2008
  130. Tim,
    I am new to GPS units and planning to get a 255w for all the improvements… but the threads about poor sounding speech have me looking at a 260w. Does the 260w allow users to input locations via Mapquest or Google? What about the 750 vs the 260w for performance?

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    Richard - July 20th, 2008
  131. The 260w will allow individual locations to be sent from MapQuest or Google. The 750 will allow full routes to be sent from MapQuest.

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    Tim - July 20th, 2008
  132. hi, i’m new to gps, my friend tell me tomtom XLS has a function to avoid high way that need pay for, does 650 has it?

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    qing - July 21st, 2008
  133. The TomTom XL-S and the Garmin Nuvi 650 both have functions built in (no additional cost) that allow you to avoid highways.

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    Tim - July 21st, 2008
  134. Tim,
    I’m looking at purchasing the 650. Since the 650 lacks the FM transmitter to play the nuvi over the sterio can I simply use the headphone jack on the nuvi and insert a tape into the cars player to play the mp3 and the directions over my cars sterio?

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    kyle - July 24th, 2008
  135. Yes.

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    Tim - July 24th, 2008
  136. I’m new on the Garmin 650 GPS System and need to kow how to recharge my battery. Thanks, in advance, for any help received.

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    LV - July 27th, 2008
  137. LV – The battery charges when you plug it in.

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    Tim - July 27th, 2008
  138. LV,

    In addition to plugging into the car’s power port, you can charge the gps while connected to the USB port of your computer.

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    Dave - July 27th, 2008
  139. Locally I can buy the Garmin 650 or 750 at
    the same price (two different stores). What
    do you recommend.

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    ann - July 28th, 2008
  140. The 750.

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    Tim - July 28th, 2008
  141. I am deciding between the new 255w and the 750. I can get the 750 $20 cheaper than the 255w. Do you think the new 250w is better than the 750? I don’t really need the extras of the 750 but it’s actually cheaper than the 255w. Which would you go with?

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    Karen - August 1st, 2008
  142. Tim,
    Thanks for the links. I was just wondering why alot of people really like the turn arrow on the 255w if the 750 tells you way in advance and a few more times that you will be turning?

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    Karen - August 1st, 2008
  143. I love the arrow because I don’t have to remember it. With the voice I might forget the instruction while I’m concentrated on driving. With the arrow it is always there at a glance. I consider the arrow one of the most important GPS features and the one you can’t live without the most.

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    Tim - August 2nd, 2008
  144. Read everything and still can’t decide.Don’t need the extras,price basically the same what do you recommend 750 or 255w?

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    Karen - August 2nd, 2008
  145. Read everything and still can’t decide. Needing only the basics but price being equal do you reccommend the 255w or the 750?

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    Karen - August 2nd, 2008
  146. 750.

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    Tim - August 2nd, 2008
  147. Thanks Tim – I needed that!!!!!

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    Karen - August 2nd, 2008
  148. Bought the 750 and glad I did for the multiple rout use.

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    Steve - August 4th, 2008
  149. I was wondering if anyone can tell me what might be the better GPS unit. I realize that there are more features in one of them, but from a GPS standard, which would hold up better for accuracy: The Nuvi 260W or the Nuvi 650?

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    Scott - August 5th, 2008
  150. Virtually identical.

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    Tim - August 5th, 2008
  151. Hi, I am new to GPS world. Bought a Garmin 650 and travelled to US from Canada via Niagara. Worked great and on my return the map was constantly telling me to come to Toronto via the 1000 Island bridge whereas my shortest route is via Niagara. In fact even from Buffalo to Toronto it told me to go all the way to the other end of Lake Ontario. I promptly returned the unit. Has anyone else experienced a similar issue?

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    Sarah - August 7th, 2008
  152. Sarah,

    Hmmm, that does seem a little weird. (Ok, a lot weird.) I tried simulating going from Buffalo to Toronto on my 650, and it correctly took me around the left side of the lake.

    The only thing I can think of is maybe you inadvertently set a via point over by the East end of the lake. The gps would then take you to the via point before going on to Toronto.

    Did it try to take you to the 1000 Islands the whole way back to Toronto? Or did it finally snap out of it?

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    Dave - August 7th, 2008
  153. As a salesman covering WI & MI, I have weekly routes I follow (8 in total). Can I load specific routes? Is the 750 the only unit that allows routing capability?

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    Dan - August 8th, 2008
  154. Dan, correct, you would want the 750 or higher for that.

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    Tim - August 8th, 2008
  155. I was wondering does the 650 have the capability to show the best semi-tractor/trailer routes; if not which do you recomened?

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    Johnny - August 9th, 2008
  156. It does have a ‘commercial’ routing type, but it is primarily for things like avoiding parkways. It doesn’t incorporate bridge height restrictions, intersections that are too sharp, etc.

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    Tim - August 10th, 2008
  157. Routing Selection:

    Is there a way to bias route selection so that Interstate Highway is used?
    I have run into situations with my Garmin 650 where in town streets with bad traffic and driving conditions were selected when an Interstate Routing could have been selected by the 650 routing algorithm, selected at little or no increase in mileage.

    My unit is set on “Shortest Time”

    Is there a “Try Again” ?
    Or a “Take the Interstate, Please”

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    Eugene - August 10th, 2008
  158. Eugene, you can add a via point to try to force the route you would like. Otherwise you will have to agree to disagree with your GPS from time to time. :)

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    Tim - August 11th, 2008
  159. what is the correct procedure for entering the street/road for (county highway b east).i have tried several different ways,and it keeps telling me no matches found

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    Jeffrey - August 13th, 2008
  160. What is the city/state?

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    Tim - August 13th, 2008
  161. maplewood mn

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    Jeffrey - August 13th, 2008
  162. Jeffrey, try “county road b”.

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    Dave - August 13th, 2008
  163. thanks dave,i will try that

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    Jeffrey - August 13th, 2008
  164. Tim,
    I’ve been thinking about getting the 650 but am concerned because it has been discontinued. Is there any disadvantage or problems associated with purchasing an outdated model? How can it be listed msrp at $749 but now sell for $269?
    thanks

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    Nate - August 20th, 2008
  165. Tim-
    I am trying to decide between the nuvi 650 and the nuvi 260w. Doses the 650 has “where am I”?
    Which is better?
    HELP

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    Gary - August 22nd, 2008
  166. The 650 doesn’t have the where am i? feature although most of the same features are on it, just not organized in one spot. The 650 has been discontinued, so is more likely to come with old maps. I’d go for the 260w.

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    Tim - August 25th, 2008
  167. Do all the Garmin’s and the WAAS capability now? Trying to choose between the 650 or either the 255w or 260w.

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    Michael - August 25th, 2008
  168. No, WAAS is unnecessary for an auto GPS so they don’t enable it to save battery life.

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    Tim - August 25th, 2008
  169. So you would recomend that WAAS is unnecesary then? So I guess I’m looking at the 255W or 260W. Minute differences really but I guess the 255W has some more features?

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    Michael - August 25th, 2008
  170. Yes, WAAS is unnecessary for an auto GPS. As to the 255w versus the 260w, see comments number 202-206 on our Garmin Nuvi 260W page.

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    Tim - August 25th, 2008
  171. Nate, see our article on Garmin Discontinued Status.

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    Tim - August 26th, 2008
  172. Hi Tim – I want to buy a new portable computer – Do you know of any that have built in GPS ?

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    Rick - September 1st, 2008
  173. I don’t really keep track of computers.

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    Tim - September 1st, 2008
  174. Tim,
    If you have to choose between 255W and 650, which one you will prefer ?

    Thanks

    Wicky

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    wicky - September 12th, 2008
  175. 255w

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    Tim - September 12th, 2008
  176. that makes me feel real good about my decision i made 3 weeks ago on a 650

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    jeff - September 12th, 2008
  177. I purchased my Garmin 650 in anticipation for our east coast on Sept. 10, 2008 returning on the 23rd. I had done quite a bit of comparison between it and other Garmin models such the 255, 360 and 370 and also the TomTom One XL. I chose a Garmin mainly because of the longer battery life and superior window mount and I chose the 650 specifically for its larger screen which was a good choice as I enjoyed the added screen real estate. Here’s a report of my impressions and experience using the 650 GPS Navigator for the first time.

    Things I liked

    Word recognition of course greatly reduces the amount of typing

    The Favourites menu seems to be location aware in that it always placed the favourites most needed at the top of the list for easy selection.

    The amount of verbal dialogue was just enough when I chose ‘guidance only’ i.e. you heard nothing until a direction change is required. This is important as it minimized road distraction.

    During navigation, I liked the bright purple line that overlaid the map, clearly indicating the proposed route and the big white arrow placed on top of the purple line whenever a turn was indicated, all very easy to take in visually while driving.

    I liked the fact that since it had it’s own battery power I could, while driving, detach it from its window mount hand to my wife who could then do a search for fuel, food, lodging or whatever and then press GO and hand it back to me to begin navigating to that point.

    I also like that the unit powered up immediately once plugged into the car outlet and acquired satellite location quickly and reliably using the famed SiRF technology and was ready to go when I was. However I did have to remember to shut it off whenever I left it in the car unattended, as the cigarette lighter in out 2000 VW Beetle remains on even when the ignition key is removed and this could have run down our battery if I didn’t.

    The car window mount was excellent and worked as advertised and it was one reason I chose Garmin over TomTom. The other reason was the much longer battery life which was normally never an issue since I used the unit mainly in the car and it was powered continuously during use. So I never really got a sense of how long the batteries would last otherwise.

    Even when I wasn’t using it to help me navigate, I kept it running as a visual guide to the road ahead – i.e. is there was a bend ahead or intersection and even my wife would keep an eye on it to see what was ahead. Since it also displays the local terrain, albeit in a simplified way, I always enjoyed knowing if there was a lake or stream ahead that we might get to see.

    I loved to ‘finger drag’ the on screen map and zoom in and out at will. I used that feature many times to figure out where I was and where I wanted to go.

    Things I didn’t like

    Word recognition – yes it did made name entry swifter but sometimes it would not give me the choice I required and repeating the procedure didn’t help so I would be forced to use the Spell City option and do a lengthy universal search of all names which sometimes worked but not always. Maybe it simply did not have all locals in its data base.

    Since I bought this unit just before my 4000km trip out east, I was eligible for the 2009 map update which I downloaded and installed. Although the installation procedure is somewhat convoluted, if you do everything exactly as instructed it does update ok.

    When I got Saint John, New Brunswick late in the afternoon and simply wanted to get to our B&B, I selected the B&B that I had previously added to my favourites and pressed GO! No problem right – wrong – it sent the wrong way on a one way street and kept trying to force me do so again and again while I took an alternative parallel street far enough to be able to return the right way down the street to our B&B. This could have dangerous seeing how I was tired from a long day of driving and not paying complete attention and yes, relying a little too much on the 650. Being ‘One Way Street’ aware I don’t think would be big deal for navteq.com.

    Things that didn’t work

    I did experience on “freeze up” alas welcome to anther computer passed system but only one. Powering down and up fixed the problem.

    Although I downloaded the most recent 2009 maps for North America, it still didn’t have the new highway in New Brunswick Canada and kept directing me the preexisting highway location. Another good reason to have a Pause/Resume button because it kept Re-calculating continuously – read very annoying!

    On occasion when I was using the touch and drag method to see more of the current mapped area in would zoom out. Not sure if I was responsible or if it was a glitch.

    Things that surprised me

    Odometer discrepancy 114 versus 120km/hr – now who do I believe especially on American highways where speed limits are strictly enforced.

    When we left Burlington Vermont by ferry to Plattsburgh, New York the device took us on a very convoluted route rather than what seemed to be a more direct highway route. Although I have to admit that I didn’t understand its initial direction prompts and may have missed a crucial turning point and it had to recalculate which may be why we ended on the alternate route. It did get us to where we wanted to be eventually.

    We crossed one time zone heading east and the unit’s clock did not change accordingly something I had assumed would happen with no attention on my part – not sort.

    Features I would find useful and like to see added
    The maps to recognize One Way street and direct you accordingly.

    Why can’t the unit give you an addition Auto choice for Kilometer versus Miles reporting
    and auto detect my location as in either Canada or the US and switch accordingly unless I choose otherwise?

    Would like a Pause/Resume touch button on main map screen. It can be semi transparent so as not to further clutter the screen. This would allow me to Pause the unit to avoid hearing “Recalculating” over and over again as I choose my own route. Yes if you return to the Main Menu you will find a Stop button but I don’t like to have to go through another level for a function that I was regularly using taken my attention away from the road for another second or so.

    Learn mode if I find a preferred route other then the one the unit has chosen.

    Under Fuel I would the unit to indicate which fuel stations are on the road I am currently on so I don’t have to go off road any distance if I prefer not to leave the highway for any length of time. Fuel stations the unit finds may be several kilometers away from the main highway and you don’t know how far you are going out of your way until you begin following the unit’s directions. Yes the unit gives you an mileage estimate to each fuel center but there is no way to know whether that is 14 km ahead on the road you’re travelling or 14 km off road that you will have to retrace in order to get back on your journey.

    At times I wanted to be directly simply to the next major center and each time I was asked to enter the location the unit required that I enter the exact address of which I had none. So I simply entered the first street number and street simply to get us going. I t would be nice in these instances if the very choice you had for an address was the City Center. Using more work around method worked well until we go t close enough to the city and realized we were now being directed to the false address and simply turn the unit off – here’s where the Pause/Resume button would help.

    Along the same topic I would a feature where I can simply enter a highway number rather than an address. Often I simply want to navigate out of town using a specific highway and not what the unit might choose for me.

    Work arounds

    If for some reason the unit couldn’t recognize what I know was a good address which happened when I was using the 2008 map or if I didn’t have a good address to input, I could use the on screen map to find where I wanted to be roughly, then touch the screen once near that location to place a flag there. Now I could save and name it for future use.

    When I simply wanted to be directed to the next major center with no specific address in mind I would press Done twice when asked for an address and choose the first address that came up on the list. This worked ok but I am sure Garmin could do better.

    General comments

    My wife who is not a great lover of these types of electronic gadgets at the best of times and for good reason I must admit myself, was determined not to like it. So I had an uphill battle before I even left the driveway and it was new to me so I wasn’t prepared to defend it just then either. However by the middle of our two week trip she was asking what “Emily” recommended – she was reluctantly being won over.

    I still you should have a good map with you and we obtained several along our journey. There is no substitute for being able to see a large area all at once in planning the broad strokes of your trip. I also began to think of the 650 as a coach or an assistance i.e. to be consulted but not completely trusted unless you have no other information to go on. However I also have to say it saved a lot of anguish when we arriving in a new unknown town with no lodging booked ahead and no idea where to eat.

    The pronunciation of Emily TTS was mostly ok but there were a few pronunciations that were quite funny once I figured out what she was trying to enunciate. For example when we had to turn left on King Street she would say what sounded to us like “Turn left Honking street”. At these times it was very helpful that printed above the map were the directions for easy confirmation.

    There was a distinct odometer discrepancy where the 650 read 114km/hr versus 120km/hr on my cars odometer. I tended to believe the 650’s speed indication over my car’s – right or wrong. So who do you believe and would the discrepancy stand up in court if I used the 650 as my speed reference and got a speeding ticket as a result??

    This was a small annoyance – when entering a city or town the unit intuitively switches from capitals to minuscule letters automatically which for the most part is fine. However there were several occasion when its choice to switch was wrong and there seemed no way to override it. A case in point when I wanted to label a “Favourite” location as US Hwy. 81 to Canada. I would be forced to write Us Hwy 81 to Canada. There is of course no punctuation possible and that’s quite acceptable.

    During my trip a got to briefly compare my 650 against my friend’s 370 and accept for the larger screen they seemed to work pretty much the same. The larger 650 screen was however a good choice as in meant the main Menu screen could fit all on one screen versus 2 screens for the 370. I did compare the 650 mainly with the 360 however as the 370 had more bells and whistles that I didn’t need.

    All in all I was very happy with my 650 and I feel I haven’t yet explored all of its potential for assisting us in our travels. Final comment: it was a very great and fun product to have our vacation and easily paid for itself on this one trip! I look forward to its continued use and I give it a 9 out 10.

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    Gary - September 30th, 2008
  178. One correction under Things I didn’t like: it should read “alas another computer based system”. Also I am notorious for dropping words in my written text – my apologies in advance.

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    Gary - October 1st, 2008
  179. Tim, you indicate that you prefer the Garmin Nuvi 255W over the 650. I am considering buying a
    650. Why do you prefer the 255W ?

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    Don - October 9th, 2008
  180. Because the 650 has been discontinued.

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    Tim - October 9th, 2008
  181. Hi Tim, Thanks for the quick answer. Now for a tough question: I liked the features of the 650 (I don’t need bluetooth, don’t care about battery life since it will only be used in my car, but I like the voice turn by turn with street names etc.), so what is your pick now for the best GPS under $ 250 ? Still a Garmin ? Still the 255W ? I’m open to suggestions. Many thanks.

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    Don - October 9th, 2008
  182. Hi, I am new to the GPS world. I have been looking at the Garmin nuvi 255w and the Garmin nuvi 650. Which would you say is better? Garmin has no many decide from. I want the Garmin, I just do not know which one is better overall?

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    Ida - October 26th, 2008
  183. Ida – the Nuvi 255w is probably the better buy at this time.

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    Tim - October 26th, 2008
  184. Thanks Tim for your quick response. I was thinking the same, the 255w. I like the where am I feature, which the 650 does not have. One other question, where would you recommend me getting the portable dashboard mount and carrying case at a reasonable price? Thanks

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    Ida - October 26th, 2008
  185. Ida, I’d look around BizRate for reputable stores that sell cases and mounts.

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    Tim - October 26th, 2008
  186. I guess I messed up. I just bought a 650 off of [snip]. Would I be better served by paying the extra $40 and buying the 255w?

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    Bill - November 10th, 2008
  187. Personally I’d consider the 255w instead, yes.

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    Tim - November 11th, 2008
  188. I recently tested out a 255 and a 260 and discovered that the 255 speaks street names as well as the amount of miles before the next turn. The 260 only spoke out street names and displayed the distance instead. I really like how the 255 speaks street names and distances. My question is, does the 650 speak street names and calculated distances like the 255?
    Thanks in advance!

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    Charles - November 12th, 2008
  189. Charles,

    I have a 650 and 260, and both speak the distance to the next turn in addition to the street name. I’m not sure if the 255 is able to do more.

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    Dave - November 12th, 2008
  190. Dave- really? that’s interesting because both the circuit city rep and myself were surprised that the 260 was not speaking the distances. I wonder if it has to do with the in store model being a 260c vs a standard 260.

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    Charles - November 12th, 2008
  191. I also wonder if it was just a bug in the simulation mode..?

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    Charles - November 12th, 2008
  192. I wouldn’t expect the GPS to operate the same way in simulation mode– lots of strange things can happen there.

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    Tim - November 12th, 2008
  193. actually, now that i think about it, i remember the 260 telling me to turn in so many meters, right before my turn. The 255 would say for example, take i96 for 25 miles to exit whatever. The 260 would just say take i96 and then 24 miles later it would tell me to take an exit in 1 mile. Can anyone confirm that this is true?

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    Charles - November 12th, 2008
  194. im sorry for the previous posts. for anyone who read them, please ignore what i said because the 255 and the 260 speak the same directions. The only difference i noticed is that the 255 has the speed limit indicator when looking at the map view but the audio on the 260 sounds much better. The 255w has better audio than the 255.

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    Charles - November 13th, 2008
  195. hi tim,
    I am a driver of a semi and have been on the phone with garmin. They told me the nuvi 650 660 680 and the street pilot c550 c580 has a truck option on them. I know these are not for semis as far as low bridges and restriced routes, the atlas is for that. My question is wich one should i go with. I have also been looking at pcmiler new nav430 and world nav please help a trucker and give me your imput thank you very much

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    Dave - December 23rd, 2008
  196. Dave, the Nuvi 650 660 680 and the StreetPilot c550 c580 have all been Discontinued. While they still are a decent value, I’d try to look for something a little more recent.

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    Tim - December 24th, 2008
  197. thanks tim

    what new models have a truck setting on them? I dont need a full blown truck gps but it is nice that the models i talked about do have a truck setting. Any info would be helpful…thank you and have a great and safe holiday

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    Dave - December 24th, 2008
  198. No truck setting on them, but for people who have used the truck setting on the models that do have it– they will likely tell you that you are not missing anything. :) Generally the “truck” data on these devices is consider so poor people that have it (and are truckers) don’t end up using it.

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    Tim - December 24th, 2008
  199. tim
    well thank you for your response. I guess i will go and take a shot with one and hope for the best. Either way i will not have to use the trucker atlas as much so that will be nice. Merry christmas and have a safe holiday

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    dave - December 24th, 2008
  200. I need a full list/definition of the icons on the 650’s map. The posted list is incomplete.
    Thanks.

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    Bob - January 7th, 2009
  201. Is it possible to download Europe maps for the Garmin Nuvi 650?
    thanks
    Heather

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    Heather - January 11th, 2009
    • Yes, you can get them through my.garmin.com or order them on SD card.

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      Tim - January 11th, 2009
  202. I recently purchased a Garmin Nuvi 260W for my husband, who is a trucker. The salesman advised there was an accessory that could be purchased for truckers routes, but I am unable to locate anything on it. Any ideas would appreciated.

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    Debbie - February 22nd, 2009
    • No such accessory exists for the Nuvi.

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      Tim - February 22nd, 2009
  203. I have owned a Nuvi 650 for a couple of years now, and it has come pretty handy. I purchased the Europe SD card for or trip there last year and saved us a lot of grief, particularly around the one way streets of Paris.
    Lately, I am having trouble with the touch screen: Last month it was off calibration [I will press "t" and it showed a letter a couple of boxes down], so it was virtually impossible to enter an address.

    Yesterday, apparently stopped working all together: It tells me that I need to upgrade the maps, and presents me with the OK at bot. right, but I cannot press it.

    I pressed the reset button in back, and now takes me to the main page, but I cannot select any features: the touch screen does not work!!!

    Any way to work around this? Thanks!!

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    Fernando - June 16th, 2009
  204. My Nuvi 650 has the same touchscreen problem. Tried the software update and reset, no luck.

    Just shipped it back to Garmin for repair today.

    Service dept. is good.

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    Dennis - June 19th, 2009
    • How much did they charge you, or you were under warranty still?

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      Fernando - August 29th, 2009
  205. Hi,
    A siilar quandry to those above.
    I am looking at sat nav system .
    Priority Speaks “Street Names”

    Have narrowed it down to three models
    Nuvi 650 discontinued but can buy newly overhaled.
    Nuvi 760 Just been discontinued.
    Nuvi 1340 No bluetooth but offers lane guidance.
    I do not drive for a living just need to know my way around
    recreationally.
    Thanks in advance

    Phill

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    Philip MacKenzie - July 7th, 2009
  206. hi, my garmin nuvi 650 was stolen last night. what do you recommend i replace it with in the nuvi line and for a comparable price as the 650? thanks

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    mark o’donnell - July 7th, 2009
    • Mark, depending on the features you use, the Garmin Nuvi 255w and the Garmin Nuvi 265WT are probably pretty close and have a few advantages over the 650.

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      Tim - July 8th, 2009
      • thank you very much for your prompt reply. we use it for family trips and it looks like the 255w is the similar devive and will suit our needs. thanks again mark

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        mark o’donnell - July 8th, 2009
  207. I’m a first-time buyer, having only experienced the Magellan Navigator in rental cars in the past. I have several questions.
    1.With the touch-screen interface feature, does the screen get full of finger prints and have to be cleaned often?
    2.I will be using the new unit in rental cars. Does the dashboard disk allow stable mounting and can it be removed without damaging the dash?
    3. With audio coming through the car’s FM radio, will we be able to listen to music at the same time?
    4. With route planning, can I choose which routes to keep?
    5. I will be receiving and unwrapping the new unit in Costa Rica. When I rent a car in the US, do I need to allow 30 minutes to an hour for the unit to acclimate to the satellites?
    THANK YOU for this very helpful site!

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    Phylliss - July 12th, 2009
    • 1) Some models are better than other, but overall it isn’t an issue.
      2) No, it is put on with an adhesive, it can damage the vehicle. For a removable option consider a friction mount (aka bean bag mount).
      3) Not unless the music is coming from the GPS.
      4) I don’t understand the question.
      5) It shouldn’t take that long. 10 minutes is more likely.

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      Tim - July 14th, 2009
  208. I have a problem with this Nuvi 650. The touch screen is mess up. After recalibrate, it works, but randomly it mess up again. There was a time, it mess up, and I could not touch the “TOOL” icon to recalibrate. I shut it off for a few days, and all of sudden, I was able to touch the “TOOL” icon and recalibrate. Anyone has this problem?
    In the mean time, I bought a different model to use.

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    Phil - August 29th, 2009
    • I posted the same problem in June of this year, except I didn’t know how to re-calibrate it [see above]. My screen went kaput after a while. It turns on and everything, but I cannot press anything on the screen. I contacted Garmin, and they want $108 for the repair!!??.
      I think I will go for a different brand, since they want also a ton of money to update the maps….
      This units are becoming disposable almost…

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      Fernando - August 29th, 2009
      • same here just stopped working no touch screen tryed reset severalX no luck glad I didnt upgrade for $120… waste of $$$
        most times i could predict a better route, and or the beast brought me to an empty lot!

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        fred alex blumberg - September 2nd, 2009
  209. we want to buy a Garmin for driving only, no other features needed except ease of entry for streets and city, voice prompts and turn by turn voice prompts–we have used the Neverlost system and found it easy, something like that–what version do you suggest for non technical folks

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    Micky - September 13th, 2009

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